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July 28 blog: Buzz Updates

Postby Schroeder » 07/28/08 at 19:38:45

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Re: July 28 blog: Buzz Updates

Postby DRiP_Guy » 07/28/08 at 21:15:37

Gonna answer Rob?

Something tells me this is the post (link) that caused you to claim over on the Plop II comments today that every board admin is aligned in a conspiracy against you; to hide your otherwise perfectly deserving ideas, that would topple the existing financial thinking of the experts and average investors alike.

Rob, get a grip and just consider for a second:

What do you think the probability is of that, Rob, in this day, and in this country, and given this medium (the Internet)?

Do you really think any good idea could be stymied if it stood up to scientific and factual scrutiny?

You aren't bein' oppressed, Rob -- you 'aven't got a womb!!!!!! ? :lol:

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Re: July 28 blog: Buzz Updates

Postby hocus2009 » 07/29/08 at 06:49:48

Don't you see that trying to talk about non-Passive Investing approaches in places that prefer Passive Investing approaches would not work out very well?

It's not places that prefer Passive Investing over Rational Investing, Schroeder. It's times.

Passive Investing always becomes popular when prices are wildly out of control. That's when large numbers permit their emotion to dominate their reason. Surprise! Surprise!

I post at Retire Early boards and at Indexing boards. Aspiring early retirees need to know about Rational Investing strategies. That's why we have seen such a positive response to these ideas at every Retire Early board at which they have been discussed. Indexers too need to know about Rational Investing strategies. That's why we have seen such a positive response to these ideas at every Indexing board at which they have been discussed.

Are there large numbers of Passive Investors at these boards? There are. Does the discussion of Rational Investing strategies cause the tummies of some of the Passive Investors to hurt? It does.

You know what? That's the price of being taken in by Passive Investing. How much do you think their tummies are going to hurt when it is not some fellow on the internet pointing out the investing realities to them but the bottom-line numbers on their portfolio statements? Words that appear on a computer screen are the least thing that those with an intense emotional attachment to the Passive Investing concept need to worry about.

In any event, each of these individuals promised to follow the rules that govern posting at the boards at which they post. Those communityzzz members seeking to engage in civil and reasoned discussion of the most important issues before their communities have every right to first ask and then ultimately to demand that those who fail to honor the promises they made in exchange for being given the ability to post be removed from the board community when they evidence contempt for the vast majority electing to follow the community norms.

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Re: July 28 blog: Buzz Updates

Postby Schroeder » 07/29/08 at 09:14:40

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Re: July 28 blog: Buzz Updates

Postby hocus2009 » 07/29/08 at 10:23:46

And I suppose a devout atheist preaching his non-belief will receive such a positive response at your church and every church he goes to. Give me a break. ?

Emotionally healthy investors do not turn investing into an intensely dogmatic religion.

People seeking to retire early naturally want to know what the historical data says about safe withdrawal rates. That's why we have seen such interest in our discussions of the past six years.

In case you don't remember, Rob, there were dozens of Vanguard Diehards at the Morningstar message board who either threatened to put you on ignore or actually did put you on ignore.

How many of those do you suppose were followers of some form of Passive Investing?

And you call that a "positive response". Sheesh!

I of course did not. Why is it that you feel a need to engage in deceptionzzz in the vast majority of your posts here, Schroeder? Do you feel that your religious beliefs are being questiioned?

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Re: July 28 blog: Buzz Updates

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Re: July 28 blog: Buzz Updates

Postby DRiP_Guy » 07/29/08 at 11:01:29

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Re: July 28 blog: Buzz Updates

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Re: July 28 blog: Buzz Updates

Postby hocus2009 » 07/29/08 at 12:05:23

The indexing boards are not interested in your valuation informed indexing ideas. Do you know why? Because they prefer to follow Passive Investing.

Who speaks for the indexing boards, Schroeder?

You? Drip Guy? John Greaney? Mel Lindauer? M*Darrin?

You know who I think speaks for the indexing boards?

The community of people who built the indexing boards.

There was a thread at the Vanguard Diehards board in which people were asked to name their favorite posters. Two names near the top of the list were Microlepsis and JohnDCraig. There has never been any poster in the history of that board who generated as many questions with his stuff as I did. That tells me that there are a whole big bunch of people in that community who are interested in knowing how stocks work in the real world.

Those people are my friends. If they're interested, that's good enough for me.

The indexing boards don't need you speaking on our behalf,. Schroeder. We're capable of speaking for ourselves just fine.

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Re: July 28 blog: Buzz Updates

Postby hocus2009 » 07/29/08 at 12:08:59

Why don't you find a board like that where the C0mmunity Members primarily follow non-Passive Investing approaches?

Why don't you and the other "defenders" of Lindauer and Greaney find one where the rules of the board permit deception, intimidation and word games?

Who are you to tell the people who built these boards that we must leave them because you support two highly abusive posters who have expressed a desire to destroy them?

Don't let the door hit your backside on the way out, Schroeder.

Imagine -- maybe you are not the center of the universe!

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Re: July 28 blog: Buzz Updates

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