Anyone else still around?

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Anyone else still around?

Postby Sensible Investor » 03/16/17 at 17:00:19

It's been a while since I checked on Rob. I see he's still doing this DAILY, with an audience that's probably in the single digits even if you include his unfortunate wife and kids.
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Postby Sensible Investor » 03/16/17 at 18:15:37

I've been bored and reading about Rob, found a positive review of Passion Saving

http://www.writershelper.com/book-revie ... aving.html
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Postby Yipee-Ki-O » 03/16/17 at 18:21:55

As I recall that was someone Rob paid back at the pinnacle of his trolling career to say nice things about him. I also seem to recall that she came to regret her brief association with the mentally ill internet troll. Rob's brief encounters with hoco-naive, would-be "helpers" usually ended poorly.
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Postby Sensible Investor » 03/16/17 at 18:30:41

Figures it's not a real review.

Been busy. Kid #1 is 22 months old now, and kid #2 is due in less than a month. Student loan will be paid off this year, 8 years early. Interest rate's so low it doesn't matter. I need to change withholding at work. Between mortgage interest, other deductions, and the child tax credit I'm letting them hang onto way too much money. Enough to take my growing family to Disney World several times over. If Rob had only worked a little bit longer and invested his money properly, perhaps he could be happily retired today and take HIS family to Disney World.
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Re: Anyone else still around?

Postby Yipee-Ki-O » 03/16/17 at 18:34:25

Audience has to be in the single digits. I'm just waiting around to see if hocomania and its founder go out with a whimper or a blaze of glory. My bet is on whimper as Rob bleats away endlessly about his delusions in obscurity until the day old age, illness or accident spells

"The End"

for the Bat$hit Crazy Fables of Hocomania.
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Postby Sensible Investor » 03/16/17 at 18:37:23

For the sake of Rob's family and any other potential innocent victims of a Bennett "Blaze of Glory", I certainly hope he goes out with a whimper.
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Postby Yipee-Ki-O » 03/16/17 at 18:38:44

Alas, mental illness assured that Rob and his family would never have a normal life. If he hadn't chosen personal finance as his obsession he would have found something else to feed his narcissism and the end result would been the same. A life lived Catastrophically Unproductively.
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Postby ataloss » 04/02/17 at 21:11:37

years 0f the same old nonsense. Sad. He had a following at the Motley Fool years ago. Intelligent people found something of value. That was a long time ago
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Postby Sensible Investor » 04/02/17 at 21:42:32

He's not as stupid as his actions, or words, would often suggest. He's crazy, but not stupid.
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Postby PinkUnicorn » 04/03/17 at 05:49:00

ataloss wrote:years 0f the same old nonsense. Sad. He had a following at the Motley Fool years ago. Intelligent people found something of value. That was a long time ago


Whatever following he had, certainly went away. Now all he has is a few comments from time to time of people playing "Poke-The-Troll" so that they can watch him make a fool of himself.

Just wondering what the trigger was that caused him to go off the mental deep end.
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Postby Yipee-Ki-O » 04/03/17 at 11:30:18

PinkUnicorn wrote:
ataloss wrote:years 0f the same old nonsense. Sad. He had a following at the Motley Fool years ago. Intelligent people found something of value. That was a long time ago


Whatever following he had, certainly went away. Now all he has is a few comments from time to time of people playing "Poke-The-Troll" so that they can watch him make a fool of himself.

Just wondering what the trigger was that caused him to go off the mental deep end.

At some point years ago he expressed much bitterness at his parents for taking him to a psychiatrist in his youth. That leads me to believe his mental illness was not of sudden onset.
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Postby ataloss » 04/08/17 at 06:55:47


At some point years ago he expressed much bitterness at his parents for taking him to a psychiatrist in his youth. That leads me to believe his mental illness was not of sudden onset.



I missed that. Still, at 60 Rob and I should probably take some responsibility for ourselves.
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Postby Yipee-Ki-O » 04/08/17 at 19:28:32

ataloss wrote:

At some point years ago he expressed much bitterness at his parents for taking him to a psychiatrist in his youth. That leads me to believe his mental illness was not of sudden onset.



I missed that. Still, at 60 Rob and I should probably take some responsibility for ourselves.

Being a narcissistic, passive-aggressive, mentally ill internet troll and Habitual Liar apparently exempts Mr. Bennett from assuming adult responsibilities.
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Postby tashina » 10/08/17 at 14:48:57

Just dropping by. Wow. If there was some award for longest-lasting internet troll, we'd be forced to nominate the guy. Ironically, he actually helped me with my early retirement, but not in the way he would think. This was my first moderation/admin job - keeping Hocus away from the innocent posters of of the financial world. It led to me applying for a moderation part time job, which led to 9 years of (fun) corporate work that I wasn't expecting at all, where I ended up as Director of Operations. Quit last year during the first week that I got a new boss I didn't care for, and now I'm back to early retirement with a little extra to show for all the work I did. Meanwhile, Hocus does not appear to have improved or advanced in any way. Will have to check if he's got a new book out for me to review. Nice to see some familiar names.
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Re: Anyone else still around?

Postby Sensible Investor » 10/08/17 at 23:28:53

I put my info into the "best retirement calculator" at Bankrate and found that I can contribute $0 and retire on 80% of my income at 58. The interest rates I put in there were pretty conservative, 6% pre-retirement and 4% post-retirement. I've evolved from "retire early abroad" to that I'd prefer to be more or less independent and be able to get some bullshit job to pass the time along with hobbies. With this path, I could conceivably still hold a job until 59.5, 62, or beyond. My next door neighbor is 69 and still drives a livery car around part-time in order to pass the time, he doesn't need the money at all. He's got a $50,000 per year pension with health benefits, he waited until the full retirement age to collect social security, his house was paid off long ago, and he has a sizable IRA. People who stay active like that seem to age better than those who just seek leisure.

So..... as of earlier tonight the 401k contribution is now down to 6%, 100% Roth option. I'll get the 6% Roth, plus another 6% traditional from the match. Up until a few months ago the 401K was 100% traditional and nearly maxed out, but I'll be focusing on the Roth and HSA space in order to minimize the RMDs in the future. Still maxing out the HSA and Roth IRA for now.

I'm still 33. I'll always be happy that I gave myself such a head start. We really live at the best time to be an American, in a financial sense. They give us so many incentives to save for our own futures it's really amazing that so many people fail to do anything at all. Even more amazing is someone like Rob, who was on a path towards a comfortable retirement but did so many things so catastrophically wrong.
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